I have had this article open all day which links to this article. I stumbled across this all on the Living and Loving page – I cant link to the actual discussion but please go and read it – its the 2nd/3rd entry on their page here.
I knew there was a blog post in it but I just couldn’t sort out my thoughts and all I kept thinking was “what rubbish”
NOW I know a few of you liked the article so let me share my views on this.
When we grew up we had corporal punishment in our schools – boys were canned and often it was taken too far – I won’t deny that BUT there was order. The pupils listened. They learnt. They did not pull sinks off the walls (as I have seen in upmarket public schools) nor did they throw their litter all over the place (again seen in schools today). Pupils did not dare threaten their teacher with “You won’d do that and if you DO my father will make sure you loose your job” – true story. We never spoke back, we pushed boundaries and some smoked skelm in the loos and bunked – all normal behaviour for kids.
The big difference though we respected our teachers. We may not have liked them and swore at them behind there back but we listened to them and there was order.
I went to fetch the kids stationery packs the other day and popped in to say Hi to a friend who teaches at the school – she had to tell her class FIVE times to please sit still and be quiet – FIVE times and eventually I just left because she was not winning. As she was saying “STOP TALKING” – they were talking more. There is no respect for her as a teacher.
The article does refer to pre-schools but I suspect it will spill over to all schools and all ages.
HOW are teachers supposed to maintain order and control?
Unless the school class size is 1-1 teachers need to have CONTROL. They need order. They need the children to listen.
How do you do this if you can not “punish” children who misbehave?
What happens in a case like Sharon had? What is the teacher allowed to do to a child who bites another child? I accept that he may not understand what he is doing etc etc but it doesn’t change the fact that it is not acceptable behaviour at all. Do the parents get called to collect their child? Does the teacher kindly as the biter to please not bite as he races off to his next meal?
And if your child is being bullied? Yes you need to get to the root of it but do teachers allow him to push smaller children? What are they allowed to do to protect the “innocent”.
Corporal punishment has been removed from schools – fair enough I can accept that but remove naughty corners and other forms of “punishment” and we are setting ourselves up for major issues when these children graduate.
One of my pet peeves is people not accepting the consequences of their actions and this kind of thing advocates for that. Children know that nothing will happen to them if they talk in the class or break the toilets so they continue to do it. They are not learning that for every action there is a consequence. Does this not bug anyone else?
I am not saying beat the children or place all of those who misbehave in exile island but teach them that their actions are not acceptable and if the continue biting/smaking/throwing then they WILL be removed from the group.
Kiara has spent many a break in her classroom (with fellow offenders) for not listening to her teacher. I support this whole heartedly. Cameron, an all round good pupil, received a black dot in the 2nd term because his teacher warned him 3 times to please stop talking. Again I support the decision – he has never done it again. Neither child was disrespected, bullied by the teacher or in any other way made to feel rejected.
I think sometimes we are trying to hard to “protect” our kids from the wrong things. Discipline is not a bad thing.
What are your thoughts on this? (Barbara I am really keen to hear what you think)